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#541
Ser man på Arktisk sjøis i den senere tiden så varierer den mellom 5 - 15 mill km2 ( www.climate4you.com ), mens figuren i artikkelen

There Has Been No Significant Net Change In Arctic Sea Ice Extent In The Last 80+ Years 
http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.6M9cNKaz.3ZpJhgwq.dpuf   

tyder på en variasjon mellom 5,5 - 7,5 mill km2.

Tatt i betraktning dÃ¥rlige mÃ¥lemetoder før satellittene sÃ¥ er det ikke sÃ¥ verst, men det var antagelig ikke sÃ¥ mye mindre is før satellittene.  Hvis det var tilfelle sÃ¥ har vi intet Ã¥ frykte av global oppvarming.  Spleising av de 2 figurene gir da et fordelaktig bilde for alarmistene.

Artikkelen avslører også hvordan klimaalarmistene "ommgår sainheita":
"For example, the IPCC referenced NOAA satellite data that extended back to 1972, not 1979, in the first UN report (1990).  It showed that there had been a slight increasing trend in sea ice for 1972-1990 due to the low extent recorded during the early 1970s, and the very high extent in the late 1970s, when the current satellite datasets begin.  Now, the IPCC (and NOAA, NSIDC) discard the 1972-1978 data from the sea ice record, instead using 1979 as the starting point, or the year with the highest sea ice extent since the early 20th century.  This way, the decline in sea ice extent to the present can be steepened considerably in modern graphics."
#542
Denne artikkelen omhandler Arktis!

  There Has Been No Significant Net Change In Arctic Sea Ice Extent In The Last 80+ Years 
- See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.6M9cNKaz.3ZpJhgwq.dpuf 

Jeg tok bare litt av innledningen for å sette den i kontekst med hva som nylig er rapportert om Antarktis.
Referanse til figuren finnes i artikkelen

Spleising av figurer er jo noe emeritusseladdens forbilde, klimafusker (ikke troverdig forsker) opp-ned Dr. M. Mann, har innført for lenge siden i klimascientologien med sin hockeykølle.

Ettersom begrenseren emeritusseladden bringer inn mitt trønderske opphav kan jeg gi en like relevant kommentar:
1996: Rosenborg - Brann 10-0
#543
Litt mer fra

There Has Been No Significant Net Change In Arctic Sea Ice Extent In The Last 80+ Years 
- See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.6M9cNKaz.3ZpJhgwq.dpuf

Last week, Edinburgh and Day (2016) used historical monitoring records to conclude that â??the [Antarctic sea ice] levels in the early 1900s were in fact similar to todayâ??.   Apparently this was a surprising finding for those who assume anthropogenic greenhouse gases largely determine net changes in polar sea ice.

Perhaps it may also be surprising for those who only focus on the 1979-to-present satellite era to learn that Arctic sea ice has also remained essentially unchanged since the 1930s and 1940s too, and is overall still quite high relative to recent centennial- and millennial-scale historical periods.  Even for the last few decades, the trends are not unusual.


#544

Omfattende dokumentasjon:

  There Has Been No Significant Net Change In Arctic Sea Ice Extent In The Last 80+ Years 
- See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.6M9cNKaz.3ZpJhgwq.dpuf

"Edinburgh and Day (2016) used historical monitoring records to conclude that â??the [Antarctic sea ice] levels in the early 1900s were in fact similar to todayâ??. "

Ingen grunn til panikk !

#545
Viktige klimatema / Sv: DET ER SOLEN!
27.11.2016, 23:29:23
UN IPCC undervurderer solens betydning:

The Bray (Hallstatt) Cycle
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/24/the-bray-hallstatt-cycle/
November 24, 2016  by Andy May and Javier
"One inescapable conclusion, from the evidence presented, is that solar variability is an important cause of climate change in the centennial to millennial time frame. Therefore, it must have contributed more to recent warming since the last Bray low ended at the end of the Little Ice Age than the IPCC suggests."
#546
Viktige klimatema / Sv: DET ER SOLEN!
21.11.2016, 22:38:27
Overveldende dokumentasjon på at solen styrer klimaet @notrickszone:

The Sun-Climate Connection: Over 100 Scientific Papers From 2016 Link Solar Forcing To Climate Change
By Kenneth Richard on 21. November 2016
In 2014, there were at least 93 peer-reviewed scientific papers published in scientific journals affirming the Sunâ??s influential role in climate change.
In 2015, there were at least 95 scientific papers affirming the Sun-Climate link.
Already in 2016, there have been over 100 papers (107 to date) published in science journals affirming the link between solar forcing and climate change.  The list of papers and brief excerpts (from the abstracts, introductions, and/or conclusions) is provided below.
http://notrickszone.com/2016/11/21/the-sun-climate-connection-over-100-scientific-papers-from-2016-link-solar-forcing-to-climate-change/#sthash.krdz0FhB.dpbs
#547
Stort sett enig i hva Dr. Spencer skriver, men han tar et lite forbehold, for han tror jo CO2 har en viss effekt, selv om han innrømmer at hverken han eller andre har vært i stand til å måle den effekten:

"The only part that is relatively settled is that adding CO2 to the atmosphere has probably contributed to recent warming. That doesnâ??t necessarily mean it is dangerous. "

Når effekten ikke kan måles og naturlovene tilsier at CO2 følger temperatur da er klimaalarmismen tilbakevist !
#548
En KLOK (!) norsk emeritus klimarealist prof. em. Solheim m.fl. har forventninger om at Trump skal gjeninnføre troverdig og ekte vitenskap i klimasaken:

Skeptical scientists crash UN climate summit, praise Trump for â??bringing science back againâ??
http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/19/skeptical-scientists-crash-un-climate-summit-praise-trump-for-bringing-science-back-again/
Norwegian Astrophysicist Professor Jan-Erik Solheim, emeritus of the Institute of Physics at the University of Tromso, said a Trump presidency can help free up scientific journals into not censoring studies that go against the UN climate change narrative.
â??We know many skeptical scientists, but many of them are silent and cannot speak out and cannot publish their work underminingâ? the UNâ??s climate claims Solheim told Climate Depot.
â??Trumpâ??s victory is very promising. We can get real science back in the field,â? he added.
#549
Tony Heller (aka Steve Goddard) gir her en kort beskrivelse av hva en fornuftig energi- og miljø-politikk kan innebære:

A Sane Energy/Environmental Policy
Posted on November 14, 2016 by tonyheller
President Obama said â??my plan will necessarily make electricity prices skyrocketâ?
These are the words of a madman, a societal saboteur. No one in their right mind would think or say anything like that. Sane energy policy requires low cost, abundant, reliable energy. It also requires that we stop wasting our reserves of hydrocarbon based fuels.

Les mer her:
http://realclimatescience.com/2016/11/a-sane-energyenvironmental-policy/
#550
Viktige klimatema / Sv: DET ER SOLEN!
16.11.2016, 09:36:37
En fransk professor bidrar til forståelsen av at det er solen som bestemmer global temperatur og klima:

Earth climate identification vs. anthropic global warming attribution
Av
Philippe de Larminat (Graduate Engineer, 1964, Ph. D., 1972) was Professor at the Institut National des Sciences Appliquées (Rennes, France) and �cole Centrale (Nantes). He is the author of 6 books and more than 100 papers in journals and international conferences.

Abstract
Based on numerical models and climate observations over past centuries, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) attributes to human activity most of the warming observed since the mid-20th century. In this context, this paper presents the first major attempt for climate system identification â?? in the sense of the systems theory â?? in the hope to significantly reduce the uncertainty ranges. Actually, climatic data being what they are, the identified models only partially fulfill this expectation. Nevertheless, despite the dispersion of the identified parameters and of the induced simulations, one can draw robust conclusions which turn out to be incompatible with those of the IPCC: the natural contributions (solar activity and internal variability) could in fact be predominant in the recent warming. We then confront our work with the approach favored by IPCC, namely the â??detection and attribution related to anthropic climate changeâ?. We explain the differences first by the exclusion by IPCC of the millennial paleoclimatic data, secondly by an obvious confusion between cause and effect, when the El Niño index is involved in detection and attribution.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1367578816300931

Les også:
Another Blow To CO2â?¦French Scientistâ??s Research Attributes Most Global Warming To Solar Activity
See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.cMsRUMHC.dpuf

The paperâ??s author, Professor Philippe de Larminat, applied the proven techniques of dynamical systems identification to the Earth climate, using paleoclimatic databases available from the major institutes and international organizations. It follows that â??with a 90% probability level, one cannot reject the hypothesis of a zero anthropogenic contributionâ?. While â??the hypothesis of a low sensitivity to solar activity must be rejected with a probability level greater than 90%.â?
#551
Verden går fremover!
En ny opplysningstid er i emning!
Emeritus har beæret oss med en ny definisjon:

Quote from: Emeritus on 13.11.2016, 19:54:05
*Klimakuk; en som lar sitt klimastandpunkt være styrende for alle, eller de fleste av ens øvrige politiske preferanser og geopolitiske analyser

Klimakuk; et lite ord for emeritusseladder, men et stort fremskritt for Menneskeheten.

Hmmmm. 
Etter å ha studert definisjonen lenge og vel så føler jeg meg ikke truffet.
De som er "lar sitt klimastandpunkt være styrende" må vel være tilhengere av FNs klimapanel IPCC (AGW-troende), og som er følgere av tidligere leder Pachauri sin "dharma and religion", og som samles i titusentalls hvert år for å hedre sin religion i utallige COP-er, akkurat nå i Marokko.

"I couldn't care less" om klima hadde det ikke vært for at det er blitt en "business" pÃ¥ 1 trillion USD/Ã¥r, betalt av oss vanlige skatte- og avgiftsbetalere, med midler som kunne vært brukt pÃ¥ Ã¥ forsøke Ã¥ løse mer presserende problemer.  Klima kommer aller sist som nr. 16 i en spørreundersøkelse i regi av FN om hva som er de saker folk prioriterer. 
Hadde det ikke vært for dette vanvittige ressursforbruket til AGW-erne så kunne de holde på med sin religion i fred for meg, som troen på Odin og Tor m.m.m.
#552
Trump blir president i USA fom 20/1-17, stikk i strid med de fleste meningsmålinger fra mainstream media.
Personen Trump virker svært usympatisk, men folk har nok stemt på ham i protest mot den herskende eliten, som vi også har her i landet.

Hva slags klimapolitikk vi kan vente oss er beskrevet her:

Hereâ??s what a Trump victory might mean for the climate
http://us.blastingnews.com/news/2016/11/here-s-what-a-trump-victory-might-mean-for-the-climate-001243355.html

Valget var et slag i trynet på den arrogante og ignorante eliten som vil styre over hodet på vanlige folk.
#553
En CERN-rapport basert på modeler blir imøtegått av prof. Henrik svensmark:

HENRIK SVENSMARK: COSMIC RAYS AND CLOUDS ANNO 2016
http://www.thegwpf.com/henrik-svensmark-cosmic-rays-and-clouds-anno-2016/
#554
3 New Papers: Sun, Cloud Dominating Climate Forcing Since 1980s
http://principia-scientific.org/3-new-papers-sun-cloud-dominating-climate-forcing-since-1980s/
#555
Viktige klimatema / Sv: DET ER SOLEN!
31.10.2016, 11:50:57
Okular; ja atmosfæren er mer komplisert enn som så at sol og atmosfæretrykk forklarer alt, men mitt poeng (muligens uklart formulert) var å påpeke hvor viktig trykket er og at enormt mange andre med bedre innsikt I problemkomplekset har påpekt det.
For meget spesielt interesserte og kompetent så kan man jo lese litt I prof. Murry Salby's bok her:

Physics of the Atmosphere and Climate
http://www.atmosfera.unam.mx/jzavala/OceanoAtmosfera/Physics%20of%20the%20Atmosphere%20and%20Climate%20-%20Murry%20Salby.pdf