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Viktige klimatema / Adiabatisk temperaturendring
« on: 10.08.2017, 23:42:14 »
Teorien om adiabatisk (trykkpåvirket) temperaturendring er nå kommet inn i lærebok:

Environmental Aspects of Oil and Gas Production
John O. Robertson, George V. Chilingar

The â??adiabatic theoryâ? of the greenhouse effect (adiabatic: â??the constant decline in temperature of an air parcel as it rises in the atmosphere due to pressure drop and gas expansionâ?) is capable of explaining the variances in temperatures on planets like Earth, Mars, and Venus using each planetâ??s atmospheric pressure gradient â?? and without reliance on the traditional greenhouse effect theory that assigns a governing role to CO2.

En klok (!) emeritus matematikk-prof. Claes Johnson om den adiabatiske effekt:
A new study by Nikolov and Zeller supports the idea presented by several climate skeptics including myself that global temperature is the result of a thermodynamic gravito-thermal effect setting a lapse rate (decrease of temperature with altitude) of about 6.5 C/km and an effect of radiation to outer space occuring from an altitude of about 5 km (on rough average). The study reported at length on WND is published in Environment Pollution and Climate Change:
New Insights on the Physical Nature of the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect Deduced from an Empirical Planetary Temperature Model.
The study shows that the basic postulate of CO2 alarmism of a "greenhouse effect" from radiation alone without the gravito-thermal effect, gives CO2 a much inflated role as control knob for global temperature: Warming of 3 C upon doubling of CO2 as a 10 fold inflation of a possible real effect of at most 0.3 C, so small that it cannnot be observed and distinguished from natural variations and thus practically zero.

Media og politikk / Verdens undergang gang på gang
« on: 03.08.2017, 23:33:33 »
Malthus' etterplaprere har florert opp gjennom historien, men AGW tar kaka.
Et avslørende og tankevekkende essay :


Clive James: â??Climate Alarmists Were Bound To Run Out Of Credibilityâ??
Date: 31/07/17

Global Warming Policy Foundation
The legendary author, poet, journalist and humorist, Clive James has recently been casting a weary eye over the state of the climate debate and has concluded that climate alarmists are on the ropes:
â??The proponents of man-made climate catastrophe asked us for so many leaps of faith that they were bound to run out of credibility in the end.â?


Generelt / Rettssak mot oljeselskap
« on: 19.07.2017, 23:50:40 »
California Counties Use Big Tobacco Lawsuit Tactics to Go After Big Oil

LOS ANGELES (CN) â?? In a legal assault similar to the one that won multibillion-dollar awards from Big Tobacco, two Bay Area counties and a coastal city blamed Chevron, ExxonMobil and three dozen other oil, gas and coal companies for climate change and rising sea levels that threaten communities on the California coast.

Statoil, som gjerne vil fremstille seg som grønt, inkludert.
Hvordan skal de kunne forsvare seg når de servilt har vært etterplaprere av klimahysterikerne?
Følgmed, kjøp tonnevis med popkorn, for dette blir skikkelig advokatmat.

Modeller eller observasjoner / Mistenkelige justeringer
« on: 10.07.2017, 23:00:41 »
Justeringene til de viktigste landbaserte data over global temperatur viser en tvilsom og mistenkelig trend med stadig brattere temperaturstigning siden Lille Istid og reduksjon av varmeperioden på 1940-tallet før utslipp av CO2 antas å ha hatt noen rolle.

Dersom feil med landbaserte temperaturmÃ¥linger hadde vært tilfeldige, sÃ¥ skulle justeringene vært noenlunde likt fordelt slik at trend i endring ikke skulle endre seg, men trenden er ensidig i klimaalarmistisk retning.  Det er mistenkelig og svært sannsynlig uriktige justeringer, noe som bevises i denne rapporten:

On the Validity of NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU Global Average Surface Temperature Data  &  The Validity of EPAâ??s CO2 Endangerment Finding - Abridged Research Report
Dr. James P. Wallace III Dr. Joseph S. Dâ??Aleo Dr. Craig D. Idso
June 2017

Utdrag fra konklusjon:
The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever â??despite current claims of record setting warming.   

Generelt / Motiv for klimaengasjement
« on: 24.06.2017, 08:04:42 »
Jeg er fullstendig enig i denne forklaringen på hvorfor vi Klimarealister skal engasjere oss i klimasaken:

Why I Spend So Much Time and Effort on Climate Skepticism
Alan Carlin | June 22, 2017 (BSc physics, Phd economy, formerly EPA employee)

I am sometimes asked why I spend so much time on climate skepticism. Why not just ignore the climate issue and let the climate alarmists have their way at the expense of everyone else, particularly the less wealthy? The full answer can be found in my book, but the short answer is that there is too much at stake for the US and the world not to do everything possible to avoid the imposition of climate alarmist ideology.
It is now clearer than ever that the alarmists have no intention of reaching a symbolic compromise that while unjustified might be livable by the rest of society. Rather, their apparent intention is to keep pushing the US and other developed countries into a fossil fuel-less society in which all energy used will come from wind and solar or a few other â??renewablesâ? but not including either hydro or nuclear. This is just what the Democratic Party included in its Party platform last year. And if their candidate had won, this is exactly what the US would now be trying to do. She even endorsed Al Goreâ??s objectives just before the election, perhaps in hopes of added votes from â??environmentalists.â?
If this had happened, this is a recipe for a financial disaster and probably the end of the US as a global innovator and economic leader. The immediate reason is that their goal of a fully fossil fuel-less society cannot be achieved even if all resources available were spent on it. Rather, their goal would result in the enslavement of the US economy to this one never achievable and pointless end. Ever more technical and economic resources would be devoted to this end. And for what purpose? To lessen an alleged threat from catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (CAGW) and stronger extreme weather phenomena that has never been shown to exist. The best available science shows that increased carbon dioxide has no significant effect on temperatures, and CAGW has not happened.
So climate alarmism is not just the biggest scam ever perpetrated on society, but one that would do immense real damages to all the objectives I have for our country, our economy, and the environment.
Under a Climate Alarmist Regime, Most New Efforts Would Be Devoted to This One Dubious Purpose
In the end, most new efforts would be devoted to this one dubious purpose. All fossil fueled power plants would have to be rebuilt at the expense of users. All motor vehicles would have to be replaced by their owners with electric vehicles. All housing and other buildings would have to use only electricity for fuel and be ever more air-tight and unhealthful. The population would be no better off and increasingly poorer. Government would become ever more powerful and the citizens ever worse off. In order to avoid using fossil fuels, the all encompassing electric grid would fail with increasingly regularity and more serious consequences. Electricity would become ever more expensive and unreliable.
Some may think I am exaggerating, but one only needs to look at what has happened in Great Britain, Germany, Ontario, and South Australia to see what would happen here. And it will happen unless people learn how much is at stake and take a strong stand against this special interest that wants to ruin the energy-using modern world as we now know it for no real purpose at all.

Aktører og hendelser / Faktisk om klima
« on: 23.03.2017, 22:07:36 »
Prof. Humlum har gitt ut en rapport om klima basert på observasjoner:


Among the key findings of the survey are:

While 2016 was one of the warmest years on record, global temperatures dropped back at the end of the year to levels prior to the strong 2015/16 El Niño. This fact suggests that much of the global 2015â??16 temperature peak was caused by a one of the strongest El Niños on record.

Since 2003, the global temperature estimate based on surface station measurements has consistently drifted away from the satellite-based estimate in a warm direction, and is now about 0.1◦C higher.

Much of the heat given off during the 2015â??16 El Niño appears to have been transported to the polar regions, especially to the Arctic, causing severe weather phenomena and unseasonably high air temperatures.

Data from tide gauges all over the world suggest an average global sea-level rise of 1â??1.5 mm/year, while the satellite-derived record suggests a rise of more than 3 mm/yr. This noticeable difference between the two data sets still has no broadly accepted explanation.

Arctic and Antarctic sea-ice extents since 1979 have developed in opposite directions, decreasing and increasing, respectively. In the Arctic, a 5.3-year periodic variation is important, while for the Antarctic a cycle of about 4.5 years duration is important. Both these variations reached their minima simultaneously in 2016, which explains the recent minimum in global sea-ice extent.

Prof Humlum said: â??There is little doubt that we are living in a warm period. However, there is also little doubt that current climate change is not abnormal and not outside the range of natural variations that might be expected.â?

Biolog og naturverner, med en imponerende merittliste; Morten Jødal har gitt ut en ny bok:

Miljømytene - står vi ovenfor verdens undergang

Boken anbefales (har begynt å lese) og kan kjøpes her:

Boken knuser en rekke myter fra algeoppblomstring, skogdød, tareskog, mmm + selvfølgelig klimahysteriet.

Viktige klimatema / Klima som religion
« on: 11.02.2017, 15:10:41 »
NÃ¥ er det ikke tvil lenger.  Klima er en substituttreligion for ellers troløse fanatikere som leter etter noe Ã¥ tro pÃ¥.

Klima er blitt religion
Innrømmet av tidligere leder for FNs Klimapanel IPCC inderen dr. Pachauri i sitt avskjedsbrev (han måtte forlate IPCC pga kvinnetrakassering): «�my religion and dharma», ref. 

Flere som innrømmer at klima er religion:
Former Obama EPA Chief concedes: â??Climate change has become a religionâ?? (Gina McCharty)
Artikkelen inneholder mange eksempler på at klima er religion for mange.

Mot religion nytter ikke realistiske argumenter.

Skråblikk / HavnivÃ¥ som temperaturproxy
« on: 07.02.2017, 14:39:43 »
En svært så aktiv nettmobber på dette forum som stadig trakasserer med begrep som "klimakuk" og "kullkuk" har så vidt jeg har registrert uttrykt noe om at havstigning kan brukes som temperaturproxy.
Ideen er sÃ¥ latterlig at jeg har lagt dette innlegget under skrÃ¥blikk.  ;D
Det ser nå ut som om seriøs forskning har avvist en slik ide temmelig grundig, noe Notrickzone (som også blir mobbet av samme ufordragelige debattant) har publisert:

35 Scientific Papers: Global Sea Levels Were 1 â?? 2 Meters Higher Than Now For Most Of The Last 7,000 Years
By Kenneth Richard on 6. February 2017
CO2 Concentration Changes Do Not Drive Sea Levels
And casting even more doubt on the assertion that variations in CO2 drive sea level rise is the fact that there is robust paleoclimate evidence to suggest that todayâ??s mean sea levels as well as todayâ??s sea level rise rates are both relatively low (from a historical standpoint) and also well within the range of natural variability.  Nothing unusual is happening to sea levels today.  For even though we have evidence that modern CO2 concentrations (~405 ppm) are historically high relative to the last 10,000 years, we also possess a growing body of evidence that modern sea levels are still about 1 to 2 meters lower than they have been for most of the last 7,000 years.

The fundamental problem for the CO2-rise-causes-sea-level-rise paradigm, then, is that rising CO2 concentrations have not been correlated with rising sea levels for nearly all of the last 12,000 years.  In fact, the opposite has been observed during the last 2,000 years, or during the Late Holocene: CO2 levels have risen (gradually, then rapidly) while sea levels have fallen overall, with recent changes so modest (inches per century) that they do not override the overall trend).   In the 8,000 years before that, sea levels rose rapidly while CO2 concentrations remained flat.  Simply put, the supposed anthropogenic â??signalâ? in sea level rise trends has largely gone undetected â?? a point that has been affirmed by more and more scientists.


JC in transition
by Judith Curry
"Effective January 1, I have resigned my tenured faculty position at Georgia Tech."

Noen sitater:
Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry in 2017: 'My fall from the ivory tower that started in 2005 is now complete'
'The deeper reasons [for resignation] have to do with my growing disenchantment with universities, the academic field of climate science and scientists.'

'A deciding factor was that I no longer know what to say to students and postdocs regarding how to navigate the CRAZINESS in the field of climate science. Research and other professional activities are professionally rewarded only if they are channeled in certain directions approved by a politicized academic establishment â?? funding, ease of getting your papers published, getting hired in prestigious positions, appointments to prestigious committees and boards, professional recognition, etc. How young scientists are to navigate all this is beyond me, and it often becomes a battle of scientific integrity versus career suicide (I have worked through these issues with a number of skeptical young scientists).'

'At this point, the private sector seems like a more â??honestâ?? place for a scientist working in a politicized field than universities or government labs â?? at least when you are your own boss.'

Aktører og hendelser / Klimakonspirasjon
« on: 27.12.2016, 13:39:33 »

Uten frykt for å bli kalt konspirasjonskuk eller det som verre er av invektivmester Emeritus vil jeg gjøre oppmerksom på at folk og organisasjoner som har ideologisk, prestisjemessig og økonomisk interesse av å hype AGW eller klimaødeleggelse ("climate disruption", som det er blitt til) samarbeider.
Og det er jo ikke sÃ¥ rart. 

Helt sentral er CAN:
The Climate Action Network (CAN) is a worldwide network of over 1100 Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) in more than 120 countries, working to promote government and individual action to limit human-induced climate change to ecologically sustainable levels.

En kritisk avløring av konspirasjonen finnes her:
The Command & Control Center of Climate Alarmism
Guest essay by Leo Goldstein
 The existence of a foreign command & control center within climate alarmism has long been ignored, despite palpable evidence. The obvious deterrent to recognizing it was ridicule, as the Left label anybody making such claims as a believer in a â??conspiracy theory.â? It is time to stop listening to fools and scoundrels. Yes, climate alarmism has a single command and control center, comprising leaders of the WWF (*), other huge environmentalist groups, and United Nations politicians. 

CAN og NGO-nettverket disponerer milliarder USD av skattebetalernes penger (WWF alene ca 1 mrd USD), som politiker-dotter har bevilget, slik at de kan drive propaganda for å bryte ned industri og redusere levestandard spesielt i den vestlige demokratiske verden, uten at folk er klar over det.

Før eller siden vil denne konspirasjonen bli avslørt og sprekke.

Andre emner enn klima / Forståelig kvantemekanikk
« on: 20.12.2016, 13:29:53 »
Jeg tror den kloke (!) emeritus prof. Claes Johnson har greid å gjøre kvantemekanikken forståelig, se:

New Quantum Mechanics 21: Micro as Macro

Noen synspunkter på det på dette forum?

Energi og miljø / Klok energi- og miljø-politikk
« on: 16.11.2016, 21:44:27 »
Tony Heller (aka Steve Goddard) gir her en kort beskrivelse av hva en fornuftig energi- og miljø-politikk kan innebære:

A Sane Energy/Environmental Policy
Posted on November 14, 2016 by tonyheller
President Obama said â??my plan will necessarily make electricity prices skyrocketâ?
These are the words of a madman, a societal saboteur. No one in their right mind would think or say anything like that. Sane energy policy requires low cost, abundant, reliable energy. It also requires that we stop wasting our reserves of hydrocarbon based fuels.

Les mer her:

Media og politikk / Klimaet i 2017-valgkampen
« on: 12.09.2016, 21:02:44 »
Nytt viktig tema tas opp hos

Klimaet i 2017-valgkampen, del 1: Høyre

Geir Aaslid
Hva vil partiene mene i neste valgkamp om klimakrisen og hvordan bruker de nærstående floskler som bærekraft, grønt skifte og det fornybare lavutslippssamfunnet i sitt valgprogram? Vi skal i tiden som kommer følge partiene og de nye programmene som de går til valg på, men vi forholder oss utelukkende til den delen som er klimarelatert. Først ut er Høyre som slapp første utkast av sitt program onsdag 7. september. Vi har uthevet med understrekning det mest relevante eller mest bedrøvelige, våre kommentarer er i kursiv. Det er ingen dissens på de punktene vi har kommentert.

Dette temaet vil det bli interessant å følge med på.

Viktige klimatema / DET ER SOLEN!
« on: 21.08.2016, 20:57:07 »
Forskere fra østerrike har påvist at solen har hatt større innflytelse enn hva FNs klimapanel forutsetter i sine modeller:

Austrian Solar Charts Expose â??Small Sensationâ? â?¦Fractures CO2 Warming Theory - See more at:

Dette stemmer også med hva bl. a. dr. W. Soon og mange fler har funnet ut:
100+ Papers â?? Sun Drives Climate

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